Wild Wild Country ft. Bridget Phetasy | The Michael Knowles Show Ep. 148
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consciousness of humanity that was his goal they're run by satanic power there is talk of vigilantes who may seek revenge on the rajneeshees I didn't take measures to protect their community to disarm this cults army now we would poison a whole town the Rajneesh they were facing immigration fraud smuggling the Rajesh's came this close to murdering a presidential appointee there's darkness in all of us doesn't make you a bad person that menacing laugh at the end that is the Raj Nishi cult and coincidentally you might have seen bridge at fantasy you might have read her writing on the federalists or playboy.com which I only read for the articles you might have seen her there I think bridget is actually the only person that writes for both the Federalists and playboy.com before her was just Bill Buckley coincidentally Bridget actually spent about a month on a Rajneesh e sex cult in Australia not the one in Oregon but they have these all over the world and she spent it on one in Australia we're joined right now by Bridget feda see Bridget thank you for being here thank you see you we you know I love your writing thank you coincidentally you happen to experience probably the biggest TV phenomenon in person up close maybe up a little too close I didn't think I would ask this question on the Michael Nolt show what made you join a sex cult I was traveling I I had booked a one-way ticket and just trout we wanted to put a backpack on and travel and I went with this guy that I met in Sydney we went up to the coast and it was their holidays and he assured me that there would be a place to stay in Byron Bay and I got there and there was nowhere to stay and he was having a boy's weekend so he being not a gentleman it's basically like you're on your own girl I just met Bridget I don't know if that's not like just being not a gentleman like if I'm not a gentleman I don't pick up the tab at dinner or something but I've never ditched my date for a sex cult and so I ended up looking on woofing I was subscribed all these different sites like couchsurfing and woofing and I looked on woofing and they had an ad for it was just like a spiritual retreat is what they called it whooping is that's the organic floor I think is worldwide organic farming if you're traveling on a budget it's a great way to go around and work four hours a day for somebody on a farm and then you can go do whatever you want if your your it's a good way to get around the world and places like Chile and New Zealand in particular and Australia and then I was like oh spiritual retreat that sounds you know harmless enough and I went and they they said oh there's a car in town right now getting supplies we can pick you up today and I said perfect right and then they showed up and they were all in white with beads and crazy eyes and did they they all had crazy eyes they definitely had that that like the look we're just I don't know if it is just the brainwashing that happens that your eyes it's like disconnected a little bit and they showed up and I got in the car and you know at some point I'm I have a very storied past and I sometimes do things I'm a writer and sometimes I make decisions because I'm like oh this'll be cool story and who knows but then I realize you know I'm taking my life in my own hands right it might be dangerous and I ended up in the car and the guy was driving like a maniac really aggressively through all these windy back roads and I was like wow I I might never see my family or friends again I could just disappear no one knew where I was I mean it was reckless you're in the middle of Australia you're then you don't have communication tools right not really I had you know a little like flip phone that I bought when I started traveling but it wasn't you know this was before it there I don't even think air B&B was a thing yet it wasn't too long ago it was 2012 but it wasn't like it is now now you get there because I've seen the show the show is really good wild wild country you could check it out how similar is it how what is this the Australian version like it wasn't I mean the scenes that you see that are really graphic it was funny because I walked into the living room and my roommate was watching it and she and I was like hey I've done that and it I'm doing dynamic meditation and she was like of course you have Bridget what are you talking about this is a documentary I was like no I was on an ashram the dead all this stuff what is this and then she was timing like oh yeah this is the guy who started he's the guy that had the hole it was the whatever that what we practiced on the ashram yeah it was his we listened to his tapes and we did the dynamic meditation which is a meditation that he invented and it's um it wasn't like as raw and aggressive and naked and kind of crazy I didn't want to pry but yeah I wanted to know it on all of these other ashrams that are still in existence today are they all having weird bizarre sitar music tantric sex yes and no so most ashrams Osho kind of he rejected the traditional ashram aesthetic and he was very he said it's not all about just denial it's about embracing he had this whole thing called Zorba the Buddha where you can you can meditate but you can also drink and be wild and crazy and have sex and you don't have to renounce all these things to be spiritual in fact spirituality and sexuality are linked you know you can't you can't really untangle them and encourage polyamory and all of this kind of partner swapping and and yeah I I think that most ashrams that you go to come from a strict lineage I went to another one in news in New Zealand and it was you know the golden silence from 8:00 until 8:00 and kirtan in the morning but it was with meditation and it was very strict and you it was the complete opposite so I think those that Osho Ashram czar their own little culture know who is running this thing in Australia so it's not the Bhagwan Indian guy that lived in Oregon who's the guy in Australia I it was a guy named samaya but it was I think he was an Italian trust fund because that's comfortable now that note to self when Ben fires you yeah okay go let's see man it seems like a pretty good gig way I like how you can kind of just go retreat and then come and everyone's like oh yeah but most of the time you just kind of spend alone I think he just watch TV I don't know what he was doing it's less work if you can get it the bhagwan spent a lot of time alone and he was like he was isolated a lot did you so I'm wondering how this Italian guy did it is there a brainwashing that goes on yes it's insidious and subtle and it's it's not ever it's like my brain is kind of wash resistant I think I had a lot of experiences leading up to that that made me very skeptical of anybody using sexuality to be spiritual which we won't get into what but I did have that's where after the break yeah that's for the subscribers oh I had an immunity to that kind of tactic but I did I can see how you get broken down it's really erratic the the exercises that Osho had you do or in this case at this ashram our our guru it's you vastly between emotions really rapidly so if you and I were doing an exercise I would be its first it's like gibberish and then they'd ding a bell and then you start laughing like a crazy person like and then it sounds like acting class it is I'm making a joke but that is true they do this in acting that's another one of the immunities that I was like oh it's like improv I can do this and then you just start but then it dings about and then you started screaming each other and just by and you see that on the thing there's just kind of and it makes you crazy it definitely destabilizes your your emotional center that sounds like explains every actor that I've ever had it does remind me trees you're describing la yeah that's right yeah I don't I don't you didn't have to go to Australia you know it's a lie la is a weird sex cult isn't it it is I think so I think there's a nurse so many homes in LA there are I mean I've many people who have joined cults in LA I mean Scientology a big one but there's um one of the other another investigative piece that I did was on orgasmic meditation and as I did the piece and everybody kind of any journalist who had written about it kind of drank the kool-aid and I was like my the only one who thinks this is kind of weird and I went and my therapist was like be careful bridge I was like this can we kind of triggering just be careful and they didn't do I was calling a dental club because we do blanket diddle club we'll see we'll fix it in post yeah and yeah it's a it's a whole thing about it being in the home of the and as I afterward the piece I got emails from therapists up in San Francisco which is where this thing started of course then they were saying that they were so glad that I can't I was critical of it because they have clients who are suffering and nobody I mean there really should be like a full-blown investigative report about this it sounds exhausting it or orgasmic meditation says it's sex Ossining if you will but that's that's very tiring and you keep that up oh hi Joe I was out after the first flake intro now I'm gonna avoid making all of the jokes or you know because it's a family show but they're all there's a lot to say this reminds me of the famous triptych by Hieronymus Bosch the Garden of Earthly Delights where you know as famous triptych where it's the paradise and it's beautiful and then everyone's kind of having these sensual pleasures and then it is hell on earth yeah it was just your revelation hell you know you you write in your piece about this excellent piece of mell magazine you're right where we just hedonists following our bliss or was there something evil or looking behind it all which is it and what's the difference well I think the road to hell is you anything can be perverted I think you can go in with good intentions of being spiritual and wanting to connect just something higher and I think that's why so many people end up in India or on these pilgrimages they're not shrooms you're not you're not living the dream and like okay I'm gonna go check out and and you know just go off the grid I think there's an internal sense of restlessness or longing for a feeling of connection to something bigger so it would be very easy to manipulate that for money or power or prestige or any of these things and I think that you find these people in myself I can only speak for myself I kind of turned the other cheek to a lot of the stuff that was going on because I was just enjoying myself and ultimately on holiday and new I was new I was leaving there were moments where I didn't want to leave because it was nice being there is something very natural about living that way that's quite simple so simple you have no decisions to make because some swarthy little Indian millionaire makes them for you and it's a there's a nice routine and you're not wasting you know sometimes I like be pumping gas or I'll be I'll be throwing a Starbucks cup away and I'm like this is it sustainable you know there's a I'll go into Costco and it's like everything in here is gonna end up in a landfill oh yeah coming you know how is this the thing that's how I meditate actually as I just pour fossil fuels on the ground I think ah now I'm at peace um yeah yeah right so there is something kind of it's like a bit of a relief and I found that it was a relief although I missed all those earthly pleasures and and I wonder you because you write about this in the mail piece you say that you missed civilization yeah you met you really liked the kind of simple sensuality spirituality some farming or whatever but that you also missed like booze and cochran drugs nice food and meat and steak yeah you eventually come back to civilization is it in your line about hedonism is it just the natural end of hedonism is this cultish ness it gives itself over to coalition us and what does that boundary like I think it does I don't know I don't know where you where you go and you know where we I don't know where you end up at the end of hedonism other than searching hmm for something because it is so I know where you go it's all la it is you come to LA where you're already here and it's you know all of these cults pop up in the most hedonistic cities in America and I think it's because they're all these people in LA and you'll say yeah well I'm a Catholic say oh you believe in that crazy superstition that's ridiculous hold on I just have to I have to move around my chakras because Mercury's in retrograde I can't believe you believe in that crazy Catholic Church and it often it's the people who are not religious we're very hedonistic they're the most superstitious people on earth oh I mean I feel this way about atheism even it's the dogma of atheism like you guys really spend a lot of time telling me preaching your atheistic values it feels if that fit feels the same way to me I I think we all want something to believe as humans because it's very confusing being human and I don't know much I'm not that smart I do know a lot about the human condition from my own experience and the human condition I think is very confusing because there's this sense of order the Sun rises it sets there are seasons and yet there's this chaos and so that chaos you want to make it make sense you that is the essential I mean Jordan Peterson just sold a gazillion books on this the essential human motive is to make order out of chaos and to and to pursue the good to pursue the virtue so I wonder you know culture and cult come from the same word they've to cultivate right they come from both derived from the same thing which is worse a whacky Indian sex cult in Australia or our modern decadent materialistic culture broadly in the West ooh and it's interesting because there isn't much difference from the experience I had in at that ashram and working up on a farm in Oregon there's there's a lot of overlap the polyamorous and even in LA the culture here and it leads all which is worse and whack some say the world will end in fire some say in ice from what I've tasted of desire you know there are a lot of everyone's being exploited so whether you're exploited for your breath work down here or you are exploited for money on this ashram or or your your psychology is I think the dangerous thing that happens in places like ashrams as opposed to being in civilization is it your brain breaks in those places and I definitely had friends that I'm still in touch with whose brains are a little bit broken from the ashram they can't really exist in civilization and they don't really have a desire to because they haven't they lost their that socialization they they're incapable of like the noise they the noise is too much and the chaos and the capitalism and well you you talk about it explicitly in one moment in the piece you say they tried to give you a new name they did that's that's the moment where you thought this is getting pretty weird Sarita yes of course premiere yeah yeah the river of love they gave you this new name is this is just a cynical tactic to break your individual app they do a lot of that and do you think that that I I guess did again one of the differences it's targeted breaking in an ashram whereas here maybe it's more insidious like la just wears you down slowly and traffic and absolutely unsatisfied yeah but there it's very much forget who you are the outside world doesn't matter the your gonna disconnect from your family they don't need to hear from you you're isolated so there's a big difference between any any situation whether it's Scientology or the ashram or anything where it's isolating you from your friends and family and people that love you and know you that's even real let you see it in relationships right I mean I think Drew and I were joking he's like can't I just be a cult of one and I was like I think that's marriage you're the one I always refer to drew Clavin is the Bhagwan you know marriage is like a cult of do that Wow that you know you've really taken me full circle here Brigitte initially I just wanted to dive into a weird sexy Sittard laid an ashram but now you've really made me I can be my own Italian coffee I don't need to go to Australia to do that I'll do it right in my own marriage you can do it right in your own house there's so much more I want to talk to you about but we have to wear out I've got to get out of here I want to talk to you oh there's so much okay we'll just have to have you back okay Bridget thank you pre pre me prom I'm sorry Prem II Prem II thank you for being here where can people find you oh um twitter is the best I mind all the socials but at Bridget fantasy as where I'm on I live on Twitter at Bridget fantasy don't we all I know it makes it I want to throw it and go follow the baggage I took it off my phone though that's a good that's a good first step now that I have this mug I will never be working Holly you're done you've been Kanye the Crips are gonna put a hit out on you actually that's what happens you're not gonna leave the Crips man there's Kanye long before Kanye that Wow well well hopefully you'll you'll be able to get some good Trump tweets out of that hopefully you can avoid the Crips in the meantime Bridget fantasy go find her on Twitter and read all of stuff at the federalists or you know playboy is not a bad website to visit a royal mell magazine writes rights everywhere and all right well see so thank you so much Richard okay we've got to get and talk a little bit about the culture because you know we're talking about weird sex cults and now we can talk about our weird culture which is absolutely in the gutter there's some sad news that I want to get to about the culture today before we sign off and get to this day in history sad news about the culture is that we all hate each other the Pew Research Center just has a report out from last fall it's being reported on now the report shows quote among members of both parties the shares with very unfavorable opinions of the other party have more than doubled they've increased by twenty eight full percentage points since nineteen ninety-four Republicans and Democrats don't want to live in the same types of communities anymore most of them admit they have very few or no friends on the other side of the aisle this is pretty weird this is weird and I've noticed it even in my brief stint on this earth the politics has gotten much nastier and now if I go to a dinner or something and I say oh I'm Catholic or I don't know I'm this or I have this belief or this belief that is much more acceptable than saying I'm a Republican or I voted for Donald Trump that you cannot say it's a very awkward you have to hide it you saw this in voting patterns this is why the polls weren't always so right at public opinion polls about Trump support because twenty percent of people don't want to admit it eighteen percent of people I think also know according to a national survey in Salinas Ito's new book show that people who voted for Donald Trump don't want to admit it to others because they fear being ostracized if you're losing their jobs their reputations or their careers or friends or whatever we know that lefties on Facebook or three times more likely than conservatives to unfriend people because of their political views it's really angry and bitter and I think it's because the culture has gotten shallower so every everything is just shouting and yelling and I don't blame the two sides equally for this there's this really cool bio thing we say you know it's both sides man no it actually is being driven by the left conservatives sometimes take their cues or take the bait but this is being driven by the left it's being driven by poisonous ideologies like intersectionality which say hey forget about our ideas forget about our reason we're gonna gang up on this demographic because we don't like this group of people it's a really a wicked ideology and also you see it in Jonathan heights studies Jonathan Hite published that famous study a few years ago as reported on the New York Times that conservatives understand the left more or less but the left doesn't understand conservatives they view the world in only three value categories and they value these things are all a little malleable but the left views the world in narrower value categories and fewer value categories than conservatives view the world so we can understand that point of view but for instance the left has trouble understanding something like purity the conservative value of purity they so cares about purity what are you talking about man I just want to live on my sex cult or a my whole life or something like that that's too bad usually the loudest voices are the least knowledgeable that tends to be the case and you hear people say they say I'm gonna shout my abortion I'm so proud I'm gonna shout this or shout that I'm gonna you know that girl when Donald Trump won there was that video of her and she's out there they say Donald Trump won the election she goes no and she yells and she's screams and because there's no reasonable discourse if you're getting angry and hot all the time you want to unfriend people and scream and yell usually that's a sign that you don't understand what you're talking about because I hear all sorts of crazy ideas all day long I'd usually don't get that flustered because I've heard them before that that owes to a bad education system that owes to a highly politicized education system and a vicious shallow highly politicized pop culture hopefully that's turning around bridgett mentioned that she got Kanye you know Brigitte isn't some Edmund Burke II and conservative with buttoned up wearing tweed all the time certainly not on the ashram but she got Kanye in that she's a free thinker and these days if you're a free thinker if you have independent thought that puts you on the right I don't think people signed up for that but the left has moved so far to the left it just puts you on the right this ties in with another sad phenomenon that's happening in the culture and that's loneliness there's an epidemic right now of loneliness and culture a new study from Cigna reveals that loneliness is at epidemic levels in America that this was a survey of 20,000 American adults aged 18 or older nearly half of those adults report sometimes or always feeling alone 46 percent or left out 47 percent depending on how you change the wording half of Americans report being sometimes or always lonely feeling alone one in four Americans more than one in four 27% rarely or never feel as though there are people who really understand them but they have no one who understands what they're going through this total isolation for a reporter of the country two in five Americans 40% of the country sometimes or always feel that their relationships are not meaningful there are these shallow relationships 43% and and that they're isolated from others same percentage 43% this I think is because of the paltry view of friendship and that comes because we've elevated sex so we make sex the be-all and end-all you don't have to you don't have to go to Australia or Oregon or India for that to happen that is pervasive around the civilized world there's a hook-up culture there it's the swipe right culture it's one that elevates sex and I'm not denigrating sex sex is a cool thing man I'm all for it but it's not the only type of relationship there are plenty of other types of relationship the Aristotle wrote about friendship friendship is the important thing the important relationship and it's love has been described as two people looking at one another lovers are two people who look at one another and friends are two people who stand next to one another and look at the same thing they're pursuing the same good there they're observing the same good and that kind of deep friendship I think is missing it's missing in part because we're so afraid to talk about anything you're people are afraid to talk about politics and religion don't talk about politics or religion at the dinner table folks that's that's what we're told it's because if I say yes I voted for Bob Dole in 96 they'll say you have vicious bigoted voting for a moderate Republican so we're not really willing to talk about anything that matters were only willing to talk about dinner we said this is good chicken yeah no how's the chickens good right that's all people just talk about the food that shallowness is is what makes people join whacky cults to search for something else because we know that's not sufficient in life we want to have meaningful relationships there was another big study that came out and said people hate small talk you don't need a study to tell you that everybody hates small talk people say I want to go to this dinner because I might have to have Yammer on and babble about nothing and over champagne or something that no one people want to talk about things that matter they want to think about things that matter in the same survey from Pew one in five people report that they rarely or never feel close to people there were they they feel like there are people that they can talk to twenty percent say they don't ever feel close to people there aren't meaningful relationships and it's because we have humiliated the view of friendship we've we've made it so shallow that it barely exists and we've also destroyed the view of relationships now you know Cole Porter didn't sing let's do it let's be in a relationship until one of us wants to get out of it and then we'll swipe right again right that's not of the song goes let's fall in love let's give ourselves to one another that view is is on the decline that's a minority view now or it's a repressed view and when you bottle something up for too long it's going to come out in weird ways this survey also shows that Generation Z so a lot of times when people talk about the youths they talk about the Millennials they say all the Millennials do this the Millennials do that but actually the Millennials are kind of old now I'm a millennial Millennials are late 20s early 30s Generation Z are the people who are upwards of twenty two-years-old Generation Z is reported to be the loneliest generation of all generations alive today they're the loneliest this is bizarre because you have the oldest generation alive they should be the loneliest right because all of their friends are dead or their widowed or whatever no they actually are doing relatively better than Generation Z and a lot of people blame this on social media use they cell it's because your your heads are in your smartphones you're not having meaningful relationships that all might be true but social media use according to this survey is not a predictor of loneliness that's bizarre the the loneliness Fair is the same among be social media users and light social media users what this means is this is partially what allows bizarre cults and rituals to flourish this empty meanness and shallowness of materialism and abstracting things and saying oh well I just I think of this person as an abstraction he's a Republican he's a Democrat he's a this cyst or a data stand they think in only in terms of abstractions so people are drawn to these weird cultish activities people love farming people love being with people people love free love they love the the tangible aspects of humanity which in modern culture really doesn't cherish as much but it's it's an important aspect and everybody's got to serve somebody they're you know when when True Religion goes away p

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consciousness of humanity that was his goal they're run by satanic power there is talk of vigilantes who may seek revenge on the rajneeshees I didn't take measures to protect their community to disarm this cults army now we would poison a whole town the Rajneesh they were facing immigration fraud smuggling the Rajesh's came this close to murdering a presidential appointee there's darkness in all of us doesn't make you a bad person that menacing laugh at the end that is the Raj Nishi cult and coincidentally you might have seen bridge at fantasy you might have read her writing on the federalists or playboy.com which I only read for the articles you might have seen her there I think bridget is actually the only person that writes for both the Federalists and playboy.com before her was just Bill Buckley coincidentally Bridget actually spent about a month on a Rajneesh e sex cult in Australia not the one in Oregon but they have these all over the world and she spent it on one in Australia we're joined right now by Bridget feda see Bridget thank you for being here thank you see you we you know I love your writing thank you coincidentally you happen to experience probably the biggest TV phenomenon in person up close maybe up a little too close I didn't think I would ask this question on the Michael Nolt show what made you join a sex cult I was traveling I I had booked a one-way ticket and just trout we wanted to put a backpack on and travel and I went with this guy that I met in Sydney we went up to the coast and it was their holidays and he assured me that there would be a place to stay in Byron Bay and I got there and there was nowhere to stay and he was having a boy's weekend so he being not a gentleman it's basically like you're on your own girl I just met Bridget I don't know if that's not like just being not a gentleman like if I'm not a gentleman I don't pick up the tab at dinner or something but I've never ditched my date for a sex cult and so I ended up looking on woofing I was subscribed all these different sites like couchsurfing and woofing and I looked on woofing and they had an ad for it was just like a spiritual retreat is what they called it whooping is that's the organic floor I think is worldwide organic farming if you're traveling on a budget it's a great way to go around and work four hours a day for somebody on a farm and then you can go do whatever you want if your your it's a good way to get around the world and places like Chile and New Zealand in particular and Australia and then I was like oh spiritual retreat that sounds you know harmless enough and I went and they they said oh there's a car in town right now getting supplies we can pick you up today and I said perfect right and then they showed up and they were all in white with beads and crazy eyes and did they they all had crazy eyes they definitely had that that like the look we're just I don't know if it is just the brainwashing that happens that your eyes it's like disconnected a little bit and they showed up and I got in the car and you know at some point I'm I have a very storied past and I sometimes do things I'm a writer and sometimes I make decisions because I'm like oh this'll be cool story and who knows but then I realize you know I'm taking my life in my own hands right it might be dangerous and I ended up in the car and the guy was driving like a maniac really aggressively through all these windy back roads and I was like wow I I might never see my family or friends again I could just disappear no one knew where I was I mean it was reckless you're in the middle of Australia you're then you don't have communication tools right not really I had you know a little like flip phone that I bought when I started traveling but it wasn't you know this was before it there I don't even think air B&B was a thing yet it wasn't too long ago it was 2012 but it wasn't like it is now now you get there because I've seen the show the show is really good wild wild country you could check it out how similar is it how what is this the Australian version like it wasn't I mean the scenes that you see that are really graphic it was funny because I walked into the living room and my roommate was watching it and she and I was like hey I've done that and it I'm doing dynamic meditation and she was like of course you have Bridget what are you talking about this is a documentary I was like no I was on an ashram the dead all this stuff what is this and then she was timing like oh yeah this is the guy who started he's the guy that had the hole it was the whatever that what we practiced on the ashram yeah it was his we listened to his tapes and we did the dynamic meditation which is a meditation that he invented and it's um it wasn't like as raw and aggressive and naked and kind of crazy I didn't want to pry but yeah I wanted to know it on all of these other ashrams that are still in existence today are they all having weird bizarre sitar music tantric sex yes and no so most ashrams Osho kind of he rejected the traditional ashram aesthetic and he was very he said it's not all about just denial it's about embracing he had this whole thing called Zorba the Buddha where you can you can meditate but you can also drink and be wild and crazy and have sex and you don't have to renounce all these things to be spiritual in fact spirituality and sexuality are linked you know you can't you can't really untangle them and encourage polyamory and all of this kind of partner swapping and and yeah I I think that most ashrams that you go to come from a strict lineage I went to another one in news in New Zealand and it was you know the golden silence from 8:00 until 8:00 and kirtan in the morning but it was with meditation and it was very strict and you it was the complete opposite so I think those that Osho Ashram czar their own little culture know who is running this thing in Australia so it's not the Bhagwan Indian guy that lived in Oregon who's the guy in Australia I it was a guy named samaya but it was I think he was an Italian trust fund because that's comfortable now that note to self when Ben fires you yeah okay go let's see man it seems like a pretty good gig way I like how you can kind of just go retreat and then come and everyone's like oh yeah but most of the time you just kind of spend alone I think he just watch TV I don't know what he was doing it's less work if you can get it the bhagwan spent a lot of time alone and he was like he was isolated a lot did you so I'm wondering how this Italian guy did it is there a brainwashing that goes on yes it's insidious and subtle and it's it's not ever it's like my brain is kind of wash resistant I think I had a lot of experiences leading up to that that made me very skeptical of anybody using sexuality to be spiritual which we won't get into what but I did have that's where after the break yeah that's for the subscribers oh I had an immunity to that kind of tactic but I did I can see how you get broken down it's really erratic the the exercises that Osho had you do or in this case at this ashram our our guru it's you vastly between emotions really rapidly so if you and I were doing an exercise I would be its first it's like gibberish and then they'd ding a bell and then you start laughing like a crazy person like and then it sounds like acting class it is I'm making a joke but that is true they do this in acting that's another one of the immunities that I was like oh it's like improv I can do this and then you just start but then it dings about and then you started screaming each other and just by and you see that on the thing there's just kind of and it makes you crazy it definitely destabilizes your your emotional center that sounds like explains every actor that I've ever had it does remind me trees you're describing la yeah that's right yeah I don't I don't you didn't have to go to Australia you know it's a lie la is a weird sex cult isn't it it is I think so I think there's a nurse so many homes in LA there are I mean I've many people who have joined cults in LA I mean Scientology a big one but there's um one of the other another investigative piece that I did was on orgasmic meditation and as I did the piece and everybody kind of any journalist who had written about it kind of drank the kool-aid and I was like my the only one who thinks this is kind of weird and I went and my therapist was like be careful bridge I was like this can we kind of triggering just be careful and they didn't do I was calling a dental club because we do blanket diddle club we'll see we'll fix it in post yeah and yeah it's a it's a whole thing about it being in the home of the and as I afterward the piece I got emails from therapists up in San Francisco which is where this thing started of course then they were saying that they were so glad that I can't I was critical of it because they have clients who are suffering and nobody I mean there really should be like a full-blown investigative report about this it sounds exhausting it or orgasmic meditation says it's sex Ossining if you will but that's that's very tiring and you keep that up oh hi Joe I was out after the first flake intro now I'm gonna avoid making all of the jokes or you know because it's a family show but they're all there's a lot to say this reminds me of the famous triptych by Hieronymus Bosch the Garden of Earthly Delights where you know as famous triptych where it's the paradise and it's beautiful and then everyone's kind of having these sensual pleasures and then it is hell on earth yeah it was just your revelation hell you know you you write in your piece about this excellent piece of mell magazine you're right where we just hedonists following our bliss or was there something evil or looking behind it all which is it and what's the difference well I think the road to hell is you anything can be perverted I think you can go in with good intentions of being spiritual and wanting to connect just something higher and I think that's why so many people end up in India or on these pilgrimages they're not shrooms you're not you're not living the dream and like okay I'm gonna go check out and and you know just go off the grid I think there's an internal sense of restlessness or longing for a feeling of connection to something bigger so it would be very easy to manipulate that for money or power or prestige or any of these things and I think that you find these people in myself I can only speak for myself I kind of turned the other cheek to a lot of the stuff that was going on because I was just enjoying myself and ultimately on holiday and new I was new I was leaving there were moments where I didn't want to leave because it was nice being there is something very natural about living that way that's quite simple so simple you have no decisions to make because some swarthy little Indian millionaire makes them for you and it's a there's a nice routine and you're not wasting you know sometimes I like be pumping gas or I'll be I'll be throwing a Starbucks cup away and I'm like this is it sustainable you know there's a I'll go into Costco and it's like everything in here is gonna end up in a landfill oh yeah coming you know how is this the thing that's how I meditate actually as I just pour fossil fuels on the ground I think ah now I'm at peace um yeah yeah right so there is something kind of it's like a bit of a relief and I found that it was a relief although I missed all those earthly pleasures and and I wonder you because you write about this in the mail piece you say that you missed civilization yeah you met you really liked the kind of simple sensuality spirituality some farming or whatever but that you also missed like booze and cochran drugs nice food and meat and steak yeah you eventually come back to civilization is it in your line about hedonism is it just the natural end of hedonism is this cultish ness it gives itself over to coalition us and what does that boundary like I think it does I don't know I don't know where you where you go and you know where we I don't know where you end up at the end of hedonism other than searching hmm for something because it is so I know where you go it's all la it is you come to LA where you're already here and it's you know all of these cults pop up in the most hedonistic cities in America and I think it's because they're all these people in LA and you'll say yeah well I'm a Catholic say oh you believe in that crazy superstition that's ridiculous hold on I just have to I have to move around my chakras because Mercury's in retrograde I can't believe you believe in that crazy Catholic Church and it often it's the people who are not religious we're very hedonistic they're the most superstitious people on earth oh I mean I feel this way about atheism even it's the dogma of atheism like you guys really spend a lot of time telling me preaching your atheistic values it feels if that fit feels the same way to me I I think we all want something to believe as humans because it's very confusing being human and I don't know much I'm not that smart I do know a lot about the human condition from my own experience and the human condition I think is very confusing because there's this sense of order the Sun rises it sets there are seasons and yet there's this chaos and so that chaos you want to make it make sense you that is the essential I mean Jordan Peterson just sold a gazillion books on this the essential human motive is to make order out of chaos and to and to pursue the good to pursue the virtue so I wonder you know culture and cult come from the same word they've to cultivate right they come from both derived from the same thing which is worse a whacky Indian sex cult in Australia or our modern decadent materialistic culture broadly in the West ooh and it's interesting because there isn't much difference from the experience I had in at that ashram and working up on a farm in Oregon there's there's a lot of overlap the polyamorous and even in LA the culture here and it leads all which is worse and whack some say the world will end in fire some say in ice from what I've tasted of desire you know there are a lot of everyone's being exploited so whether you're exploited for your breath work down here or you are exploited for money on this ashram or or your your psychology is I think the dangerous thing that happens in places like ashrams as opposed to being in civilization is it your brain breaks in those places and I definitely had friends that I'm still in touch with whose brains are a little bit broken from the ashram they can't really exist in civilization and they don't really have a desire to because they haven't they lost their that socialization they they're incapable of like the noise they the noise is too much and the chaos and the capitalism and well you you talk about it explicitly in one moment in the piece you say they tried to give you a new name they did that's that's the moment where you thought this is getting pretty weird Sarita yes of course premiere yeah yeah the river of love they gave you this new name is this is just a cynical tactic to break your individual app they do a lot of that and do you think that that I I guess did again one of the differences it's targeted breaking in an ashram whereas here maybe it's more insidious like la just wears you down slowly and traffic and absolutely unsatisfied yeah but there it's very much forget who you are the outside world doesn't matter the your gonna disconnect from your family they don't need to hear from you you're isolated so there's a big difference between any any situation whether it's Scientology or the ashram or anything where it's isolating you from your friends and family and people that love you and know you that's even real let you see it in relationships right I mean I think Drew and I were joking he's like can't I just be a cult of one and I was like I think that's marriage you're the one I always refer to drew Clavin is the Bhagwan you know marriage is like a cult of do that Wow that you know you've really taken me full circle here Brigitte initially I just wanted to dive into a weird sexy Sittard laid an ashram but now you've really made me I can be my own Italian coffee I don't need to go to Australia to do that I'll do it right in my own marriage you can do it right in your own house there's so much more I want to talk to you about but we have to wear out I've got to get out of here I want to talk to you oh there's so much okay we'll just have to have you back okay Bridget thank you pre pre me prom I'm sorry Prem II Prem II thank you for being here where can people find you oh um twitter is the best I mind all the socials but at Bridget fantasy as where I'm on I live on Twitter at Bridget fantasy don't we all I know it makes it I want to throw it and go follow the baggage I took it off my phone though that's a good that's a good first step now that I have this mug I will never be working Holly you're done you've been Kanye the Crips are gonna put a hit out on you actually that's what happens you're not gonna leave the Crips man there's Kanye long before Kanye that Wow well well hopefully you'll you'll be able to get some good Trump tweets out of that hopefully you can avoid the Crips in the meantime Bridget fantasy go find her on Twitter and read all of stuff at the federalists or you know playboy is not a bad website to visit a royal mell magazine writes rights everywhere and all right well see so thank you so much Richard okay we've got to get and talk a little bit about the culture because you know we're talking about weird sex cults and now we can talk about our weird culture which is absolutely in the gutter there's some sad news that I want to get to about the culture today before we sign off and get to this day in history sad news about the culture is that we all hate each other the Pew Research Center just has a report out from last fall it's being reported on now the report shows quote among members of both parties the shares with very unfavorable opinions of the other party have more than doubled they've increased by twenty eight full percentage points since nineteen ninety-four Republicans and Democrats don't want to live in the same types of communities anymore most of them admit they have very few or no friends on the other side of the aisle this is pretty weird this is weird and I've noticed it even in my brief stint on this earth the politics has gotten much nastier and now if I go to a dinner or something and I say oh I'm Catholic or I don't know I'm this or I have this belief or this belief that is much more acceptable than saying I'm a Republican or I voted for Donald Trump that you cannot say it's a very awkward you have to hide it you saw this in voting patterns this is why the polls weren't always so right at public opinion polls about Trump support because twenty percent of people don't want to admit it eighteen percent of people I think also know according to a national survey in Salinas Ito's new book show that people who voted for Donald Trump don't want to admit it to others because they fear being ostracized if you're losing their jobs their reputations or their careers or friends or whatever we know that lefties on Facebook or three times more likely than conservatives to unfriend people because of their political views it's really angry and bitter and I think it's because the culture has gotten shallower so every everything is just shouting and yelling and I don't blame the two sides equally for this there's this really cool bio thing we say you know it's both sides man no it actually is being driven by the left conservatives sometimes take their cues or take the bait but this is being driven by the left it's being driven by poisonous ideologies like intersectionality which say hey forget about our ideas forget about our reason we're gonna gang up on this demographic because we don't like this group of people it's a really a wicked ideology and also you see it in Jonathan heights studies Jonathan Hite published that famous study a few years ago as reported on the New York Times that conservatives understand the left more or less but the left doesn't understand conservatives they view the world in only three value categories and they value these things are all a little malleable but the left views the world in narrower value categories and fewer value categories than conservatives view the world so we can understand that point of view but for instance the left has trouble understanding something like purity the conservative value of purity they so cares about purity what are you talking about man I just want to live on my sex cult or a my whole life or something like that that's too bad usually the loudest voices are the least knowledgeable that tends to be the case and you hear people say they say I'm gonna shout my abortion I'm so proud I'm gonna shout this or shout that I'm gonna you know that girl when Donald Trump won there was that video of her and she's out there they say Donald Trump won the election she goes no and she yells and she's screams and because there's no reasonable discourse if you're getting angry and hot all the time you want to unfriend people and scream and yell usually that's a sign that you don't understand what you're talking about because I hear all sorts of crazy ideas all day long I'd usually don't get that flustered because I've heard them before that that owes to a bad education system that owes to a highly politicized education system and a vicious shallow highly politicized pop culture hopefully that's turning around bridgett mentioned that she got Kanye you know Brigitte isn't some Edmund Burke II and conservative with buttoned up wearing tweed all the time certainly not on the ashram but she got Kanye in that she's a free thinker and these days if you're a free thinker if you have independent thought that puts you on the right I don't think people signed up for that but the left has moved so far to the left it just puts you on the right this ties in with another sad phenomenon that's happening in the culture and that's loneliness there's an epidemic right now of loneliness and culture a new study from Cigna reveals that loneliness is at epidemic levels in America that this was a survey of 20,000 American adults aged 18 or older nearly half of those adults report sometimes or always feeling alone 46 percent or left out 47 percent depending on how you change the wording half of Americans report being sometimes or always lonely feeling alone one in four Americans more than one in four 27% rarely or never feel as though there are people who really understand them but they have no one who understands what they're going through this total isolation for a reporter of the country two in five Americans 40% of the country sometimes or always feel that their relationships are not meaningful there are these shallow relationships 43% and and that they're isolated from others same percentage 43% this I think is because of the paltry view of friendship and that comes because we've elevated sex so we make sex the be-all and end-all you don't have to you don't have to go to Australia or Oregon or India for that to happen that is pervasive around the civilized world there's a hook-up culture there it's the swipe right culture it's one that elevates sex and I'm not denigrating sex sex is a cool thing man I'm all for it but it's not the only type of relationship there are plenty of other types of relationship the Aristotle wrote about friendship friendship is the important thing the important relationship and it's love has been described as two people looking at one another lovers are two people who look at one another and friends are two people who stand next to one another and look at the same thing they're pursuing the same good there they're observing the same good and that kind of deep friendship I think is missing it's missing in part because we're so afraid to talk about anything you're people are afraid to talk about politics and religion don't talk about politics or religion at the dinner table folks that's that's what we're told it's because if I say yes I voted for Bob Dole in 96 they'll say you have vicious bigoted voting for a moderate Republican so we're not really willing to talk about anything that matters were only willing to talk about dinner we said this is good chicken yeah no how's the chickens good right that's all people just talk about the food that shallowness is is what makes people join whacky cults to search for something else because we know that's not sufficient in life we want to have meaningful relationships there was another big study that came out and said people hate small talk you don't need a study to tell you that everybody hates small talk people say I want to go to this dinner because I might have to have Yammer on and babble about nothing and over champagne or something that no one people want to talk about things that matter they want to think about things that matter in the same survey from Pew one in five people report that they rarely or never feel close to people there were they they feel like there are people that they can talk to twenty percent say they don't ever feel close to people there aren't meaningful relationships and it's because we have humiliated the view of friendship we've we've made it so shallow that it barely exists and we've also destroyed the view of relationships now you know Cole Porter didn't sing let's do it let's be in a relationship until one of us wants to get out of it and then we'll swipe right again right that's not of the song goes let's fall in love let's give ourselves to one another that view is is on the decline that's a minority view now or it's a repressed view and when you bottle something up for too long it's going to come out in weird ways this survey also shows that Generation Z so a lot of times when people talk about the youths they talk about the Millennials they say all the Millennials do this the Millennials do that but actually the Millennials are kind of old now I'm a millennial Millennials are late 20s early 30s Generation Z are the people who are upwards of twenty two-years-old Generation Z is reported to be the loneliest generation of all generations alive today they're the loneliest this is bizarre because you have the oldest generation alive they should be the loneliest right because all of their friends are dead or their widowed or whatever no they actually are doing relatively better than Generation Z and a lot of people blame this on social media use they cell it's because your your heads are in your smartphones you're not having meaningful relationships that all might be true but social media use according to this survey is not a predictor of loneliness that's bizarre the the loneliness Fair is the same among be social media users and light social media users what this means is this is partially what allows bizarre cults and rituals to flourish this empty meanness and shallowness of materialism and abstracting things and saying oh well I just I think of this person as an abstraction he's a Republican he's a Democrat he's a this cyst or a data stand they think in only in terms of abstractions so people are drawn to these weird cultish activities people love farming people love being with people people love free love they love the the tangible aspects of humanity which in modern culture really doesn't cherish as much but it's it's an important aspect and everybody's got to serve somebody they're you know when when True Religion goes away p

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