The Conversation Ep. 11: Andrew Klavan
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It’s our latest episode of The Conversation, and this month we’re speaking with Andrew Klavan! Subscribers can ask their live questions and Drew will answer them for everyone to hear!she's very pretty didn't I pay no attention to this entire name but I even I can ownership everybody on Twitter is like why do you care about the royal family of course and I said I can care because I don't have to that's what makes it it's like pop culture e-everyone I'm Alicia Krause and we're live with our newest episode of the conversation [Music] this July edition we have our very own Andrew Klavan hey Andrew we will be taking live questions for an entire hour so please remember our conversation is live for everyone to watch we like to be inclusive that way even though we aren't conservative and it's supposed to not include you guys but we do but you can only be a part of the conversation if you're a subscriber what does that mean you need to go click the link in our video description to ask questions and sign up and be sure to tune in next month for our episode with Michael knows it's gonna be Tuesday August 21st at 5:30 p.m. Eastern 2:30 p.m. Pacific Pacific time and it'll be mean Michael on this couch in his studio this couch has kind of become a staple of the conversation don't sit this close to Michael honest comfort I mean I've said numerous times before can we just give me some spaces to yourself yes I have to say that to him repeatedly earlier he was trying on shirts and he's like what should I wear or should I wear this and I'm like yes where all of the church just cover it all up I was a part of the Valentine's Day promo I don't need to relive that nightmare ah anyway but it's good to have you here it's nice to be here as always yes it has although I see you from time to time while you're wondering people wonder what I do around here that's an important job somebody's got to do it we got our first question you ready I'm ready great this question is from Ben he says hi Andrew in the past you've said that works of fiction like our theory in legends helped bring you over to Christianity can you give us some more details about that yeah sure I mean I started out reading the tough guy writers because I was looking kind of kind of from male role models and a lot of their books were based on Arthurian legends so I turned to our 30 and legends and all the Arthurian legends our center around Christian iconography the Holy Grail and things like that that ultimately led me to read more about Christianity just because I wanted to be a writer and know more about the culture to understand the background of it yeah it seemed that this was at the core of every work I saw and I just thought well if I'm going to be a writer I want to know what people are writing about that's when my my father caught me reading the New Testament and screamed at me for half an hour yeah absolutely he was he was afraid I would convert cilium a question from Stephen who do you see playing you Ben and Michael and the unlock the ride is daily wire biopic I think for me it does Bruce Willis definitely because he's got he's got the hairline yeah I you know I don't know they'd have to find a young Jeff Goldblum for for Ben that's an excellent actually suggestion you better answer than mine I will see to your answer and and Noel's you gotta be kidding at me oh yeah Scott there's the Donald Trump supporter wait no we need somebody young and vibrant like you know gosh who's that girl who played the play himself he's not you probably want to be that person that played themselves the late and wonderful Fred Thompson played himself in in a movie that's right that's right is that how he got his acting started I believe did he I think that's how he got his acting start we'll have to google that all right but if you want to get you know experience in acting and writing like yourself yes should someone like me just go check out Scotia yeah you gotta go to Skillshare of course Skillshare is an online learning platform with over 20,000 classes and business design technology all kinds of things you can take classes in social media marketing illustration data science mobile photography creative writing you name it they've got it I've tested it out I've looked at their writing lessons they're really good I've looked at some of their music stuff and podcasting whether you're trying to deepen your professional skill set start a side hustle or just explore a new passion Skillshare is there to keep you learning and thriving join the millions of students already learning on Skillshare and me who continues to use it with a special offer just for my listeners get two months of Skillshare for only 99 cents that's right Skillshare is offering the andrew Clavin show listeners and listeners to this conversation two months of unlimited access to over 20 thousand classes for just one penny under a buck to sign up go to Skillshare comm / andrew Skillshare dot-com / andrew to start two months now for just 99 cents Skillshare dot-com / Angela I frequently grocery shop for my family and I think there's nothing at the grocery store you can find for now that's true I mean you can get those things where you throw the ball up and catch him at cop I think that's about it the next question is from Phoebe she says when I was in public high school I had trouble reading so I was taken out of class every day and put in a small room to work on my reading my dad thinks this was abuse how can we help kids like me I do not think that that's abuse I mean I don't know but it doesn't seem like it's abused very tough if you're especially if you're in a public school there aren't that many facilities for you I think that what you need is each school should have a special learning teacher and if they can't handle you they should move you to schools for teach for people like yourself there's a lot of private schools specifically here in the LA area that I've heard about that have kind of those types of teachers for kids that are that are struggling in a certain topic or they help them do their homework in like the kind of after-hours time and fair schools will tell you we can't handle what you've got you know you've got to go to a different place but but look I think you know you have to give this school some slack when you call it abuse to give the kids special lessons in permanent school a butte that's not what abuse looks like it looks a lot worse Joel says mr. prime lol you should say you're borderline Catholic have you looked at or Fatah at the Orthodox I'm under the oriental branch includes Coptic Ethiopian Armenian Syrian it is well you know ever since I expressed my dissatisfaction with the mainstream Episcopal Church because they've been talking about taking gender gendered words out of their Book of Common Prayer which is absurd not because God has a gender but because the Bible has decreed that this is a good way of referring to God ever since I've said that people have been recommending their churches I've got a lot of recommendations and the Catholics you know the Catholics and the Mormons they came after me hard but I have a certain problem that I actually discusses the Noles for several hours the other day which is that I do not want anyone else describing the moral moral to me in such a way that I can't override them if my conscience and scripture reading and theology reading declares that they're right but they're wrong and I'm right I'm hooked I'm Huck Finn and in the end I'll go to hell if it means doing the right thing all right I'm so sorry the Mormons can keep trying Aaron says Jessica always makes your hair look stunning she does I have a thing that was for you or for me no no it's me I think yeah I have a full head of hair I looked exactly we look almost exactly alike before Jessica yeah and then I this is how I turn this is all contour and curling iron folks Veronica says Lord man y'all I cannot read these give us writers some practical tips how do you manage multiple projects at a time and how do you maintain your narrative voice while reading other authors that's we're actually really good that's a very I find that I don't even write fiction like you do but when I'm writing an opinion piece there's all the words or the tweets or the articles that I've read from other people including here at the Daily Wired that I want to make sure I'm not just projecting their thoughts and get mine out on paper so how do you do that in your political writing and in your fiction well first of all let's practice when I was coming up every writer steals from other writers as they come up you read Hemingway you write like Hemingway for a couple of months you read Henry James suddenly all your sentences get very complex but over time you start to develop a natural voice which is usually for most writers it's usually several voices it's not just one voice you have a number of voices that you can turn to and even imitate other voices if you need to but it is something that you learned that's something that you learn over time I forgot what the first part of that question was it was asked how do you how do you manage multiple project that may be the very the single hardest thing I do because I do have to do multiple projects you have to separate them it is more tiring in a day to do three projects than it is to do one project over the same amount of time if you have to keep changing your mind it's a lot of mental effort so I just I schedule my time very very carefully I know exactly how much time I have I know exactly what I'm gonna use it for I know exactly where I'm gonna get rest and stop and I'm not afraid to stop if I have to and that's that those are the things you learn in over time boss and friend of yours Ben Shapiro has said that you are the most scheduled person he has ever met yeah I am a very very disciplined person because you know the day has a beginning it has an end and you want to get as much in as possible all righty Evan says fearless leader can you do the can-can I hope that's for you but if it's for me no no no I should say I can't can't Ryan says hi Andrew is it possible for an author to create and write for a character that is more intelligent than them does this question even make sense yeah it makes absolute sense it's it is indeed it is possible I mean you do it through reading people who are more I don't have this problem cuz there is nobody more intelligence right you mean you read it you read it do the research and find out how we would say the best kind of research I find begins with finding somebody you can talk to and speaking to him directly because people use slang they use words that nobody else uses research is really key to doing this stuff but you can write anybody you know this is one of the things that drives me crazy about this kind of intersectional movement when they say actors can't play you know a white person can play a black person yeah of course I can write about anybody I can write anybody and if you could if a man can write a woman you can write anybody because that's the that is the biggest distance between two people is gender that's a good point Raymond says Andy millennial what didn't we do tons better with crime and economy if we got rid of the big cities can everyone from on top and get everyone from like I think he means off of being on top right you know it's funny I'm not particularly a city mouse though I've spent a lot of my time in cities but cities have a lot to offer and people like cities you know I think when people are brought together who have similar ideas similar thoughts when they when they can argue when they can associate with each other good things come of it I mean when we think of the great moments like the Renaissance and Victorian England there's always a city very much involved and there were always people like Wordsworth one of my heroes who goes off into the country and says you know what I'm gonna do this my own way William Faulkner goes off and does that but a lot of people hang around cities yeah cities come with problems they come with problems like crime those problems I have to say they can be dealt with when you look at New York great city very low crime ever since Giuliani took care of it there with his with Bratton and his police chiefs so I just think these are problems that come up but the problem shouldn't get rid of the source of so much creativity originality and humanity alright Luke says if you could enslave anyone to do a podcast at the David Lee wire who would it be I would never enslave anyone I you know I don't know you know the podcast is a very strange form I mean you think of sort of you know think of guys who were eloquent and interesting like Jordan Peterson we had him over the other day and he was great you know but you don't know if they're gonna do a podcast well when I sat down to do it I had no idea whether I would be any good at it or not you know it's just a very very specific form so you want people who feel comfortably I wouldn't enslave anybody's you want somebody who feels comfortable somebody who is really gonna be good not just one day because anybody can do it for one day but something's gonna come on every day and have something new to say as things change and I wasn't sure that was suitable for me as someone who likes to sit and think about things before I opened my big mouth so I so I'm not sure which people would be great I think norm MacDonald's who I think does have a podcast I'd love to have him here alright hey norm if you're watching come on over set you up with a god-king right exactly he loves we all love norm ago richard says do you use an outline or just start writing oh man I'm a big outliner I think yes I think people I'm for fiction I think people who don't outline are out of their minds because you can get you really can get like 300 pages into something and realize oh my gosh if I didn't put the gun here on page three it's not gonna be here in pasted 300 in the whole story doesn't make sense you have to go back and break it down it's not like screenwriting where you can just switch things around you really have to go through every page and make sure everything fits so outlines are incredibly important to me they allow me most importantly to just write which is what I love outlining is the most boring part of my job but once it's done I can just write and so every day is a joy it's like a road map yeah and I can change it in any time I want but that's no change the one always your answers Spencer says in your opinion how can we best discover God's will for our lives how should we distinguish God's will for us from what near happens to us right I mean I think that this is a very very difficult problem you really have to learn how to listen for God how to talked to God and how not to take coincidences as God's will listen God is always operating in your life and what you're trying to do is you're trying to hook your will into his you're trying to do his will instead of yours which frequently is just broken I mean this is what I find I find my own will is broken I want things from myself I shouldn't have I want to do try things that I know I'm not going to be able that ultimately I know I'm not going to be able to do whereas if I listen to God's will I find that I can do things I never thought I could do and I can make things work out that shouldn't work out at all and so then that's what you want to do and I think you do it's just the way you do it with any human being really you talk to someone and you start to listen to the tone of their voice and when they're telling you something that you need to listen to and it really is practice over time you should not you should never think that the things that happen are necessarily written in stone and you should certainly never think the coincidence is a revelation it really has to do with communicating with God in your life okay Anthony says hey andrew is an artist that is conservative do you believe that conservative artists need to be more like I do not know how to pronounce his name we're told breakfast okay there we go it's in create art that promotes conservative you know I think that what what we need is we need conservative artists we don't need concede artists who are conservatives we didn't don't need conservatives to create art or Christian it's so bad Christian music almost all political art is bad what you want is somebody who has a conservative point of view to create the art that his muse or God gives him to create that's what you want and one of the reasons that conservative art and is so bad is because first of all we don't have the studio's to make a lot of it so you get that one guy who just comes in but secondly because we wanted to communicate we want conservative art to look like conservative life it doesn't Shakespeare doesn't look like conservative life Tosca doesn't look like conservative life great stories one of the most conservative one of my favorite works of my life times The Sopranos which is filled with nudity murder you know the filthy language it's a deeply deeply conservative and instructive piece of work and that's what you need and it takes an artist to do that not a conservative all right so speaking of being an artist wanted to take like art classes I'm gonna figure out hobby professionally they gotta go to skills and skill sure it's a terrific thing it's an online learning platform with over 20,000 classes in just about everything business design technology you get the whole class an expert teaches it in a series of videos you can take social media marketing illustration data science mobile photography creative writing you name it and it's one price and then you're in it doesn't stop and charge you more as they go along and whether you're trying to deepen your professional skill set start a side business or just explore a new passion Skillshare is there to keep you learning and thriving I have tested their things just for my audience I tested their writing lessons and they're very very good I've looked at things for myself like how to do a podcast when we wanted to do another Kingdom right now I'm looking at a lot of their music videos you too can join the millions of students already learning on Skillshare with a special offer get two months of Skillshare for just 99 cents that's amazing skill share is offering my listeners two months of unlimited access to over 20,000 classes for just 99 cents the Alicia will divide that and tell you what that costs a class I want to sign up go to Skillshare comm slash Andrew go to Skillshare calm slash Andrew to start your two months now that's skill share calm slash Andrew Andrew really how do we stop California what do you mean Veronica we live here you can destroy us she said she read today that San Francisco is registering illegals to vote and what can we the people do to fight against this and the other awful things our state does well first I think what we should do is take a bandsaw along the border and just cut it until a switch goes out to see you make sure I'm in Nevada when are you state the breakup of these states I believe in doing anything we can to stop California from being what it is it is the worst it's one of the worst run states in the Union it would be paradise if left us weren't in charge of it it could be so much more than it is on the drought is the fault of the droughts we have of the fault of left is not that there aren't droughts here but the how bad they are is their fault that San Francisco is now just a cesspool it's one of the most beautiful cities in the world and it looks like garbage la is a homeless center it is just disgusting and the fact that they can keep doing it while people don't don't pay any attention to it the fact that we have no media here that covers it whether they just don't they just hide it all and blame right-wingers for everything so I think what what can we do busting it up is one place to start but then the problem with that my only negative to that is then you have potentially a lot more federal senators that are super well maybe maybe so maybe not I mean because the thing is you know there are plenty of conservative enclaves in this in this state and so maybe you put some of those aside don't gerrymander it so that the liberals get everything but the thing is big is generally bad big generally doesn't work one of the wonderful things about the federal process is it lets people test test out different ways of being sure the the part of the state with LA and it is gonna be more liberal than other parts but let it let it happen and see what goes on because I think that when you look at Texas how well that's run under a Republican rule endless Republican rule and then you look at California and how bad it is if Silicon Valley weren't here this place would be going interesting Derek says Andrew what do you think about getting an English degree well leftist professors grade me poorly on purpose that's that is what I've heard and I think you know a lot of the Liberal Arts degrees have been destroyed by leftist in other words it said when I I was an English major I wish I'd been a history major but that was an English major what do you learned as an English major is he came in and you started with Beowulf and by the time you were finished you had read the moderns and you really knew the history of English literature I remember walking down the street one day when I suddenly realized that history had a path the things that happened over time and that Shakespeare had read Virgil and you know Dickens had read Shakespeare and they were all affecting one another and so you did learn something when I talk to English majors today they've never read Shakespeare if you've never read Shakespeare you are not an English major you don't know anything about the English language you don't know any better the formation of your own mind you don't that effective so I doubt it would be effective Ross either that seems more timely than my method would just be fruitful and multiply I think that's the best thing if liberals are only having like 1.2 children I know between the Shapiro's and our family if we can have like 20 that's it I mean looky there I think I think that works the Muslims do this it should work for us all right well says I was watching Tucker Carlson interview where he was interviewing an illegal immigrant business owner how can he legally own a business and why don't we deport him as he admitted to being an illegal well this is you know this is a serious problem I do not want to hurt I understand that some people are having a hard time they want to come here I want people to come here I think you're refreshing the problem is not with any individual illegal person that is not fair that's not where to look at the problem the problem it was with a feckless Congress that does not fix the laws and they and they do it I mean you saw Chuck Schumer the other day waving his pen around saying you know Donald Trump's you just sign an order and fix everything no you guys sit down compromise make laws risk being voted out of office and do what it needs what needs to be done to fix our immigration system so we can get the people we need but also keep out people who we don't want it seems like you know you can't get a hundred percent of what you want we understand this divided government it's supposed to be a divided government but do something these guys are just cowards they are it is feckless cowardice and we shouldn't we shouldn't be blaming the guy who came over to get a better life we should be blaming Congress and that you know who will not pass laws it can be reasonably enforced all right Veronica says Oh bold and handsome why I love Veronica my mom wants to know how old you were when your voice started to sound like that it's just lovely I love this person you know it's funny I have three brothers and my father and my son we all have the exact same voice in fact you can hear messages on our tape machines and I just I noticed on my father he's gone but but you know the my brothers all sound the same we all have big radio voices and my voice started to change when I was about 13 but my mother always told me that I would when I was little you know a little kids ride around in the Pushcart that I would say that would look at the cereal and say things like I would like one of those everybody would stop and look around I guess it was early you always sounded very masculine deep Philip says I really like this girl but she likes guys like you and idolizes you what can I do to win well first of all you've made a good choice this is a woman with excellent excellent taste and I think you just have to become a witty elegant intelligent well learned person and then she'll forget all about who has books turned into movies can you do that yeah absolutely good luck with that Jonathan says hi Andrew in an article by Ryan Saavedra he shares some information from Fox News indicating that the economy has been improving since 2011 how can Trump be credited with the current economic status well here's the thing when the economy crashes like it did in 2008 a major major crash it has a natural tendency to rebound very quickly very in a very big way Obama did everything he could to sit on that rebound only because he doesn't know anything because he thinks he knows stuff and he doesn't and so the economy did rebound but it rebounded at this 1% growth is kind of steady slow thing and all Trump did all he did was put a little bit of animal spirits into the business community by saying things are going to go great and I'm gonna back you pulling out regulations and cutting taxes and he's the more he does that the more the economy will rebound we are really having the rebound we would have had under Obama if he hadn't done all that leftist nonsense in the health care bill that kept it slow so in other words when people say oh well the economy was coming back under Obama I agree the economy would have come back and the American common economy is so resilient it would have come back if you just put a gigantic rock on over we did Obama was that giant rock but I think it still was vibrant enough to come back all Trump has done really is get the government out of the way I would also add I think it's an interesting case study too under the Obama and the Trump years to look at states with Republican legislators legislatures and governors yeah as well because even under Obama you still saw Republican states like Florida and Texas that were thriving despite all the regulations exact well that is the great thing about the federal thought you know the federal system is you can come yet compete like that Phillips says what did you think of Sasha Baer Cowen's latest show that mocks Republicans in the NRA well I'm glad you asked this question because I hate this guy and I think he's talented I think he's funny I think he stinks I think you take you know the thing is this is what I call the tyranny of cool if somebody is cool and Cohen is cool he's outrageous and he's funny and he's all those things and all the right friends right absolutely you start to think well there must be something good about him but that's not true people can be cool and really be jerks and he it is a jerky stinky thing to do to go to ordinary people with the power of a Hollywood film book behind you and make fun of them and he always makes fun of ordinary people in the what they call flyover country in the middle of the country he makes fun of conservatives he makes fun of people with values who want to you know have manners and things like that that makes him even worse but that's not what I dislike but I just like to see fools people who were better men than he is he'll fool cops or full firemen you know fool people who serve their country and I think it's funny and it's witty and its original and it's stinks and I don't see why we can't say those things altogether a person could be town it's like mmm I used to listen to Eminem and think yeah he's talented what he's saying is disgusting you know it does not having talent I'm not trying to be prissy or you know I I'm happy to see outrageous stuff but just because you're doing outrageous stuff that's mean you're not doing a bad thing remember the people that he's making fun of our real people if you even if he was making fun of them in fictional work I would say that would be fine I might not like his opinions but that would be fine but the fact that he uses and abuses real people I just think is wrong interesting Jeremiah says king of the multiverse Clavin you rag on the administrative state slash deep state slash EPA constantly did this soap box arise from personal experience or just reading and observing from observing and from reading and from principle I mean the funny thing is the funny thing is people like us don't get affected by the deep state or the administrative state because the First Amendment protects us so the First Amendment sent essentially says you can't make regulations against speech you can't do it so they go well whatever will will change that they tried they tried to change it every Democrat has tried to change it but they can't because the First Amendment is so ingrained in American culture they want to but they can't but if you have a different kind of business say you may car engines or say you make you know plows or whatever you make you know say you have you you have a restaurant they just go nuts and they come in and tell you how far off the floor your windows have to be and how you know this has to happen look everything we do is regulate it I mean you and I can get in an argument but I can't hit you you know you you know then we have a regulation against that that's fine yes you can hit I kind of enjoy it sick but there I am but but no you know everything is regulated so we need simple straightforward regulations keep your food clean keep your restaurant clean and all this stuff but these guys come to work every day and write more and more regulations each one of those has a cost on a guy's business and each one of them takes his choices and his ideas about how to run a business takes it away some of the stuff we see where lemonade stands are being shut down because they don't have permits that's the deep state and that I just find that incredibly offensive unconstitutional and on American so let me ask you a question that Michael and I asked on Friday live a couple weeks ago because the purge came out yeah so if if there were no laws for 12 hours what would you do I think I do might rebuild my house and play cut down a couple of trees I would go to the IRS in the state of California take back every penny I'd ever paid in tax dollars and use that money to remodel my the other thing I would do is blow up the EPA and then salt the ground where Kate says dear mr. clay Clavin I really enjoyed your audible novel from 2008 recently do you think you inherited your dad's talent from voices oh I wish I had but I really did not my father was one of the great voice men of his era I mean there's that guy's name escapes me but that guy who does a boo in the Simpsons oh yeah he is one of the great he's bubbly Hank Azaria I think he's probably the great one now my father was one of the great ones of his generation I you know he could do any accent he could do a double-talk in Italian to a real Italian and for about two minutes the Italian would think he was speaking Italian before he started to catch on but it was all double-talk that's how good he was I have a certain amount of skill with my voice I have a certain amount of reading skill I can do a range voices but he could just do about anything with his voice it was really quite amazing and my older brother got it but I didn't interesting joel jay says old man Clavin what are your thoughts on video games anime and the international content like Bollywood can we express conservative themes in these alt mediums and he wants to get I love bill Bill's welcome on my show anytime I

It’s our latest episode of The Conversation, and this month we’re speaking with Andrew Klavan! Subscribers can ask their live questions and Drew will answer them for everyone to hear!she's very pretty didn't I pay no attention to this entire name but I even I can ownership everybody on Twitter is like why do you care about the royal family of course and I said I can care because I don't have to that's what makes it it's like pop culture e-everyone I'm Alicia Krause and we're live with our newest episode of the conversation [Music] this July edition we have our very own Andrew Klavan hey Andrew we will be taking live questions for an entire hour so please remember our conversation is live for everyone to watch we like to be inclusive that way even though we aren't conservative and it's supposed to not include you guys but we do but you can only be a part of the conversation if you're a subscriber what does that mean you need to go click the link in our video description to ask questions and sign up and be sure to tune in next month for our episode with Michael knows it's gonna be Tuesday August 21st at 5:30 p.m. Eastern 2:30 p.m. Pacific Pacific time and it'll be mean Michael on this couch in his studio this couch has kind of become a staple of the conversation don't sit this close to Michael honest comfort I mean I've said numerous times before can we just give me some spaces to yourself yes I have to say that to him repeatedly earlier he was trying on shirts and he's like what should I wear or should I wear this and I'm like yes where all of the church just cover it all up I was a part of the Valentine's Day promo I don't need to relive that nightmare ah anyway but it's good to have you here it's nice to be here as always yes it has although I see you from time to time while you're wondering people wonder what I do around here that's an important job somebody's got to do it we got our first question you ready I'm ready great this question is from Ben he says hi Andrew in the past you've said that works of fiction like our theory in legends helped bring you over to Christianity can you give us some more details about that yeah sure I mean I started out reading the tough guy writers because I was looking kind of kind of from male role models and a lot of their books were based on Arthurian legends so I turned to our 30 and legends and all the Arthurian legends our center around Christian iconography the Holy Grail and things like that that ultimately led me to read more about Christianity just because I wanted to be a writer and know more about the culture to understand the background of it yeah it seemed that this was at the core of every work I saw and I just thought well if I'm going to be a writer I want to know what people are writing about that's when my my father caught me reading the New Testament and screamed at me for half an hour yeah absolutely he was he was afraid I would convert cilium a question from Stephen who do you see playing you Ben and Michael and the unlock the ride is daily wire biopic I think for me it does Bruce Willis definitely because he's got he's got the hairline yeah I you know I don't know they'd have to find a young Jeff Goldblum for for Ben that's an excellent actually suggestion you better answer than mine I will see to your answer and and Noel's you gotta be kidding at me oh yeah Scott there's the Donald Trump supporter wait no we need somebody young and vibrant like you know gosh who's that girl who played the play himself he's not you probably want to be that person that played themselves the late and wonderful Fred Thompson played himself in in a movie that's right that's right is that how he got his acting started I believe did he I think that's how he got his acting start we'll have to google that all right but if you want to get you know experience in acting and writing like yourself yes should someone like me just go check out Scotia yeah you gotta go to Skillshare of course Skillshare is an online learning platform with over 20,000 classes and business design technology all kinds of things you can take classes in social media marketing illustration data science mobile photography creative writing you name it they've got it I've tested it out I've looked at their writing lessons they're really good I've looked at some of their music stuff and podcasting whether you're trying to deepen your professional skill set start a side hustle or just explore a new passion Skillshare is there to keep you learning and thriving join the millions of students already learning on Skillshare and me who continues to use it with a special offer just for my listeners get two months of Skillshare for only 99 cents that's right Skillshare is offering the andrew Clavin show listeners and listeners to this conversation two months of unlimited access to over 20 thousand classes for just one penny under a buck to sign up go to Skillshare comm / andrew Skillshare dot-com / andrew to start two months now for just 99 cents Skillshare dot-com / Angela I frequently grocery shop for my family and I think there's nothing at the grocery store you can find for now that's true I mean you can get those things where you throw the ball up and catch him at cop I think that's about it the next question is from Phoebe she says when I was in public high school I had trouble reading so I was taken out of class every day and put in a small room to work on my reading my dad thinks this was abuse how can we help kids like me I do not think that that's abuse I mean I don't know but it doesn't seem like it's abused very tough if you're especially if you're in a public school there aren't that many facilities for you I think that what you need is each school should have a special learning teacher and if they can't handle you they should move you to schools for teach for people like yourself there's a lot of private schools specifically here in the LA area that I've heard about that have kind of those types of teachers for kids that are that are struggling in a certain topic or they help them do their homework in like the kind of after-hours time and fair schools will tell you we can't handle what you've got you know you've got to go to a different place but but look I think you know you have to give this school some slack when you call it abuse to give the kids special lessons in permanent school a butte that's not what abuse looks like it looks a lot worse Joel says mr. prime lol you should say you're borderline Catholic have you looked at or Fatah at the Orthodox I'm under the oriental branch includes Coptic Ethiopian Armenian Syrian it is well you know ever since I expressed my dissatisfaction with the mainstream Episcopal Church because they've been talking about taking gender gendered words out of their Book of Common Prayer which is absurd not because God has a gender but because the Bible has decreed that this is a good way of referring to God ever since I've said that people have been recommending their churches I've got a lot of recommendations and the Catholics you know the Catholics and the Mormons they came after me hard but I have a certain problem that I actually discusses the Noles for several hours the other day which is that I do not want anyone else describing the moral moral to me in such a way that I can't override them if my conscience and scripture reading and theology reading declares that they're right but they're wrong and I'm right I'm hooked I'm Huck Finn and in the end I'll go to hell if it means doing the right thing all right I'm so sorry the Mormons can keep trying Aaron says Jessica always makes your hair look stunning she does I have a thing that was for you or for me no no it's me I think yeah I have a full head of hair I looked exactly we look almost exactly alike before Jessica yeah and then I this is how I turn this is all contour and curling iron folks Veronica says Lord man y'all I cannot read these give us writers some practical tips how do you manage multiple projects at a time and how do you maintain your narrative voice while reading other authors that's we're actually really good that's a very I find that I don't even write fiction like you do but when I'm writing an opinion piece there's all the words or the tweets or the articles that I've read from other people including here at the Daily Wired that I want to make sure I'm not just projecting their thoughts and get mine out on paper so how do you do that in your political writing and in your fiction well first of all let's practice when I was coming up every writer steals from other writers as they come up you read Hemingway you write like Hemingway for a couple of months you read Henry James suddenly all your sentences get very complex but over time you start to develop a natural voice which is usually for most writers it's usually several voices it's not just one voice you have a number of voices that you can turn to and even imitate other voices if you need to but it is something that you learned that's something that you learn over time I forgot what the first part of that question was it was asked how do you how do you manage multiple project that may be the very the single hardest thing I do because I do have to do multiple projects you have to separate them it is more tiring in a day to do three projects than it is to do one project over the same amount of time if you have to keep changing your mind it's a lot of mental effort so I just I schedule my time very very carefully I know exactly how much time I have I know exactly what I'm gonna use it for I know exactly where I'm gonna get rest and stop and I'm not afraid to stop if I have to and that's that those are the things you learn in over time boss and friend of yours Ben Shapiro has said that you are the most scheduled person he has ever met yeah I am a very very disciplined person because you know the day has a beginning it has an end and you want to get as much in as possible all righty Evan says fearless leader can you do the can-can I hope that's for you but if it's for me no no no I should say I can't can't Ryan says hi Andrew is it possible for an author to create and write for a character that is more intelligent than them does this question even make sense yeah it makes absolute sense it's it is indeed it is possible I mean you do it through reading people who are more I don't have this problem cuz there is nobody more intelligence right you mean you read it you read it do the research and find out how we would say the best kind of research I find begins with finding somebody you can talk to and speaking to him directly because people use slang they use words that nobody else uses research is really key to doing this stuff but you can write anybody you know this is one of the things that drives me crazy about this kind of intersectional movement when they say actors can't play you know a white person can play a black person yeah of course I can write about anybody I can write anybody and if you could if a man can write a woman you can write anybody because that's the that is the biggest distance between two people is gender that's a good point Raymond says Andy millennial what didn't we do tons better with crime and economy if we got rid of the big cities can everyone from on top and get everyone from like I think he means off of being on top right you know it's funny I'm not particularly a city mouse though I've spent a lot of my time in cities but cities have a lot to offer and people like cities you know I think when people are brought together who have similar ideas similar thoughts when they when they can argue when they can associate with each other good things come of it I mean when we think of the great moments like the Renaissance and Victorian England there's always a city very much involved and there were always people like Wordsworth one of my heroes who goes off into the country and says you know what I'm gonna do this my own way William Faulkner goes off and does that but a lot of people hang around cities yeah cities come with problems they come with problems like crime those problems I have to say they can be dealt with when you look at New York great city very low crime ever since Giuliani took care of it there with his with Bratton and his police chiefs so I just think these are problems that come up but the problem shouldn't get rid of the source of so much creativity originality and humanity alright Luke says if you could enslave anyone to do a podcast at the David Lee wire who would it be I would never enslave anyone I you know I don't know you know the podcast is a very strange form I mean you think of sort of you know think of guys who were eloquent and interesting like Jordan Peterson we had him over the other day and he was great you know but you don't know if they're gonna do a podcast well when I sat down to do it I had no idea whether I would be any good at it or not you know it's just a very very specific form so you want people who feel comfortably I wouldn't enslave anybody's you want somebody who feels comfortable somebody who is really gonna be good not just one day because anybody can do it for one day but something's gonna come on every day and have something new to say as things change and I wasn't sure that was suitable for me as someone who likes to sit and think about things before I opened my big mouth so I so I'm not sure which people would be great I think norm MacDonald's who I think does have a podcast I'd love to have him here alright hey norm if you're watching come on over set you up with a god-king right exactly he loves we all love norm ago richard says do you use an outline or just start writing oh man I'm a big outliner I think yes I think people I'm for fiction I think people who don't outline are out of their minds because you can get you really can get like 300 pages into something and realize oh my gosh if I didn't put the gun here on page three it's not gonna be here in pasted 300 in the whole story doesn't make sense you have to go back and break it down it's not like screenwriting where you can just switch things around you really have to go through every page and make sure everything fits so outlines are incredibly important to me they allow me most importantly to just write which is what I love outlining is the most boring part of my job but once it's done I can just write and so every day is a joy it's like a road map yeah and I can change it in any time I want but that's no change the one always your answers Spencer says in your opinion how can we best discover God's will for our lives how should we distinguish God's will for us from what near happens to us right I mean I think that this is a very very difficult problem you really have to learn how to listen for God how to talked to God and how not to take coincidences as God's will listen God is always operating in your life and what you're trying to do is you're trying to hook your will into his you're trying to do his will instead of yours which frequently is just broken I mean this is what I find I find my own will is broken I want things from myself I shouldn't have I want to do try things that I know I'm not going to be able that ultimately I know I'm not going to be able to do whereas if I listen to God's will I find that I can do things I never thought I could do and I can make things work out that shouldn't work out at all and so then that's what you want to do and I think you do it's just the way you do it with any human being really you talk to someone and you start to listen to the tone of their voice and when they're telling you something that you need to listen to and it really is practice over time you should not you should never think that the things that happen are necessarily written in stone and you should certainly never think the coincidence is a revelation it really has to do with communicating with God in your life okay Anthony says hey andrew is an artist that is conservative do you believe that conservative artists need to be more like I do not know how to pronounce his name we're told breakfast okay there we go it's in create art that promotes conservative you know I think that what what we need is we need conservative artists we don't need concede artists who are conservatives we didn't don't need conservatives to create art or Christian it's so bad Christian music almost all political art is bad what you want is somebody who has a conservative point of view to create the art that his muse or God gives him to create that's what you want and one of the reasons that conservative art and is so bad is because first of all we don't have the studio's to make a lot of it so you get that one guy who just comes in but secondly because we wanted to communicate we want conservative art to look like conservative life it doesn't Shakespeare doesn't look like conservative life Tosca doesn't look like conservative life great stories one of the most conservative one of my favorite works of my life times The Sopranos which is filled with nudity murder you know the filthy language it's a deeply deeply conservative and instructive piece of work and that's what you need and it takes an artist to do that not a conservative all right so speaking of being an artist wanted to take like art classes I'm gonna figure out hobby professionally they gotta go to skills and skill sure it's a terrific thing it's an online learning platform with over 20,000 classes in just about everything business design technology you get the whole class an expert teaches it in a series of videos you can take social media marketing illustration data science mobile photography creative writing you name it and it's one price and then you're in it doesn't stop and charge you more as they go along and whether you're trying to deepen your professional skill set start a side business or just explore a new passion Skillshare is there to keep you learning and thriving I 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does well first I think what we should do is take a bandsaw along the border and just cut it until a switch goes out to see you make sure I'm in Nevada when are you state the breakup of these states I believe in doing anything we can to stop California from being what it is it is the worst it's one of the worst run states in the Union it would be paradise if left us weren't in charge of it it could be so much more than it is on the drought is the fault of the droughts we have of the fault of left is not that there aren't droughts here but the how bad they are is their fault that San Francisco is now just a cesspool it's one of the most beautiful cities in the world and it looks like garbage la is a homeless center it is just disgusting and the fact that they can keep doing it while people don't don't pay any attention to it the fact that we have no media here that covers it whether they just don't they just hide it all and blame right-wingers for everything so I think what what can we do busting it up is one place to start but then the problem with that my only negative to that is then you have potentially a lot more federal senators that are super well maybe maybe so maybe not I mean because the thing is you know there are plenty of conservative enclaves in this in this state and so maybe you put some of those aside don't gerrymander it so that the liberals get everything but the thing is big is generally bad big generally doesn't work one of the wonderful things about the federal process is it lets people test test out different ways of being sure the the part of the state with LA and it is gonna be more liberal than other parts but let it let it happen and see what goes on because I think that when you look at Texas how well that's run under a Republican rule endless Republican rule and then you look at California and how bad it is if Silicon Valley weren't here this place would be going interesting Derek says Andrew what do you think about getting an English degree well leftist professors grade me poorly on purpose that's that is what I've heard and I think you know a lot of the Liberal Arts degrees have been destroyed by leftist in other words it said when I I was an English major I wish I'd been a history major but that was an English major what do you learned as an English major is he came in and you started with Beowulf and by the time you were finished you had read the moderns and you really knew the history of English literature I remember walking down the street one day when I suddenly realized that history had a path the things that happened over time and that Shakespeare had read Virgil and you know Dickens had read Shakespeare and they were all affecting one another and so you did learn something when I talk to English majors today they've never read Shakespeare if you've never read Shakespeare you are not an English major you don't know anything about the English language you don't know any better the formation of your own mind you don't that effective so I doubt it would be effective Ross either that seems more timely than my method would just be fruitful and multiply I think that's the best thing if liberals are only having like 1.2 children I know between the Shapiro's and our family if we can have like 20 that's it I mean looky there I think I think that works the Muslims do this it should work for us all right well says I was watching Tucker Carlson interview where he was interviewing an illegal immigrant business owner how can he legally own a business and why don't we deport him as he admitted to being an illegal well this is you know this is a serious problem I do not want to hurt I understand that some people are having a hard time they want to come here I want people to come here I think you're refreshing the problem is not with any individual illegal person that is not fair that's not where to look at the problem the problem it was with a feckless Congress that does not fix the laws and they and they do it I mean you saw Chuck Schumer the other day waving his pen around saying you know Donald Trump's you just sign an order and fix everything no you guys sit down compromise make laws risk being voted out of office and do what it needs what needs to be done to fix our immigration system so we can get the people we need but also keep out people who we don't want it seems like you know you can't get a hundred percent of what you want we understand this divided government it's supposed to be a divided government but do something these guys are just cowards they are it is feckless cowardice and we shouldn't we shouldn't be blaming the guy who came over to get a better life we should be blaming Congress and that you know who will not pass laws it can be reasonably enforced all right Veronica says Oh bold and handsome why I love Veronica my mom wants to know how old you were when your voice started to sound like that it's just lovely I love this person you know it's funny I have three brothers and my father and my son we all have the exact same voice in fact you can hear messages on our tape machines and I just I noticed on my father he's gone but but you know the my brothers all sound the same we all have big radio voices and my voice started to change when I was about 13 but my mother always told me that I would when I was little you know a little kids ride around in the Pushcart that I would say that would look at the cereal and say things like I would like one of those everybody would stop and look around I guess it was early you always sounded very masculine deep Philip says I really like this girl but she likes guys like you and idolizes you what can I do to win well first of all you've made a good choice this is a woman with excellent excellent taste and I think you just have to become a witty elegant intelligent well learned person and then she'll forget all about who has books turned into movies can you do that yeah absolutely good luck with that Jonathan says hi Andrew in an article by Ryan Saavedra he shares some information from Fox News indicating that the economy has been improving since 2011 how can Trump be credited with the current economic status well here's the thing when the economy crashes like it did in 2008 a major major crash it has a natural tendency to rebound very quickly very in a very big way Obama did everything he could to sit on that rebound only because he doesn't know anything because he thinks he knows stuff and he doesn't and so the economy did rebound but it rebounded at this 1% growth is kind of steady slow thing and all Trump did all he did was put a little bit of animal spirits into the business community by saying things are going to go great and I'm gonna back you pulling out regulations and cutting taxes and he's the more he does that the more the economy will rebound we are really having the rebound we would have had under Obama if he hadn't done all that leftist nonsense in the health care bill that kept it slow so in other words when people say oh well the economy was coming back under Obama I agree the economy would have come back and the American common economy is so resilient it would have come back if you just put a gigantic rock on over we did Obama was that giant rock but I think it still was vibrant enough to come back all Trump has done really is get the government out of the way I would also add I think it's an interesting case study too under the Obama and the Trump years to look at states with Republican legislators legislatures and governors yeah as well because even under Obama you still saw Republican states like Florida and Texas that were thriving despite all the regulations exact well that is the great thing about the federal thought you know the federal system is you can come yet compete like that Phillips says what did you think of Sasha Baer Cowen's latest show that mocks Republicans in the NRA well I'm glad you asked this question because I hate this guy and I think he's talented I think he's funny I think he stinks I think you take you know the thing is this is what I call the tyranny of cool if somebody is cool and Cohen is cool he's outrageous and he's funny and he's all those things and all the right friends right absolutely you start to think well there must be something good about him but that's not true people can be cool and really be jerks and he it is a jerky stinky thing to do to go to ordinary people with the power of a Hollywood film book behind you and make fun of them and he always makes fun of ordinary people in the what they call flyover country in the middle of the country he makes fun of conservatives he makes fun of people with values who want to you know have manners and things like that that makes him even worse but that's not what I dislike but I just like to see fools people who were better men than he is he'll fool cops or full firemen you know fool people who serve their country and I think it's funny and it's witty and its original and it's stinks and I don't see why we can't say those things altogether a person could be town it's like mmm I used to listen to Eminem and think yeah he's talented what he's saying is disgusting you know it does not having talent I'm not trying to be prissy or you know I I'm happy to see outrageous stuff but just because you're doing outrageous stuff that's mean you're not doing a bad thing remember the people that he's making fun of our real people if you even if he was making fun of them in fictional work I would say that would be fine I might not like his opinions but that would be fine but the fact that he uses and abuses real people I just think is wrong interesting Jeremiah says king of the multiverse Clavin you rag on the administrative state slash deep state slash EPA constantly did this soap box arise from personal experience or just reading and observing from observing and from reading and from principle I mean the funny thing is the funny thing is people like us don't get affected by the deep state or the administrative state because the First Amendment protects us so the First Amendment sent essentially says you can't make regulations against speech you can't do it so they go well whatever will will change that they tried they tried to change it every Democrat has tried to change it but they can't because the First Amendment is so ingrained in American culture they want to but they can't but if you have a different kind of business say you may car engines or say you make you know plows or whatever you make you know say you have you you have a restaurant they just go nuts and they come in and tell you how far off the floor your windows have to be and how you know this has to happen look everything we do is regulate it I mean you and I can get in an argument but I can't hit you you know you you know then we have a regulation against that that's fine yes you can hit I kind of enjoy it sick but there I am but but no you know everything is regulated so we need simple straightforward regulations keep your food clean keep your restaurant clean and all this stuff but these guys come to work every day and write more and more regulations each one of those has a cost on a guy's business and each one of them takes his choices and his ideas about how to run a business takes it away some of the stuff we see where lemonade stands are being shut down because they don't have permits that's the deep state and that I just find that incredibly offensive unconstitutional and on American so let me ask you a question that Michael and I asked on Friday live a couple weeks ago because the purge came out yeah so if if there were no laws for 12 hours what would you do I think I do might rebuild my house and play cut down a couple of trees I would go to the IRS in the state of California take back every penny I'd ever paid in tax dollars and use that money to remodel my the other thing I would do is blow up the EPA and then salt the ground where Kate says dear mr. clay Clavin I really enjoyed your audible novel from 2008 recently do you think you inherited your dad's talent from voices oh I wish I had but I really did not my father was one of the great voice men of his era I mean there's that guy's name escapes me but that guy who does a boo in the Simpsons oh yeah he is one of the great he's bubbly Hank Azaria I think he's probably the great one now my father was one of the great ones of his generation I you know he could do any accent he could do a double-talk in Italian to a real Italian and for about two minutes the Italian would think he was speaking Italian before he started to catch on but it was all double-talk that's how good he was I have a certain amount of skill with my voice I have a certain amount of reading skill I can do a range voices but he could just do about anything with his voice it was really quite amazing and my older brother got it but I didn't interesting joel jay says old man Clavin what are your thoughts on video games anime and the international content like Bollywood can we express conservative themes in these alt mediums and he wants to get I love bill Bill's welcome on my show anytime I

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